Gah, all I wanted to say is that it's really cool that you don't settle with one style but strive for more, want to learn other way to express yourself. And in fact all the things I pointed out you already know - you had them incorporated in your 1st pict, it's all there. Just don't throw it away. That pict would be a nice children's book illustration. But "for children" doesn't equal "childish". So sure, go on with the more serious look - it's all good, just don't throw away what you already learnt. Haha, hope it made sense. ^^'
oh, yes, everything makes sense, and perhaps i have to hear those comments form people more often instead of blank "likes" and "nice". i may know what i did wrong, what could be improved, but still it's my drawing, so i may be mistaken or see it differently, so i appreciate all the constructive criticism, it helps me improve. helps a lot. thank you very much. and sorry for answering after almost a month, i just got my internet back.
Okay, I'm glad you apprecitate then. :3 It's really sad to see closed-up artists who are not willing to at least consider other's opinion. Ah, no worry about "late ansers" - I do the same very often, it's understandable. Uh oh, no internet sucks though.
I read the comments and I'd just 2nd ~PerkyZ on that so I won't bother, you already heard.
But if you want to change your ways that's understandable, happens to me as well. Lately I also want to try more "messy" and rough works too because I always do too "pretty" things that are just plain boring after a while. So I understand your intentions, go for it!
In this point of view it's understandable why you aimed for less defined borders, greyish look to get an eerie atmosphere. And how you did her face expresses it well with the unnatural blank look she has or the strange lighting on her face. But perhaps even more misty bg, even less clear details there, more shadowy contours would make her pop out more still to make a stronger impact. Just emphasize things that are more important (like how detailed you made her face really good) and keep the rest more vague. And an unusual lighting for the whole scene would help to bring out more of what you want with creepyness (like the usual "lighting from bellow" trick). Or maybe change the composition a bit, like those vines would try to curl around her a bit threatening rather than just be still scenery on the side like now. That is actualy a strong point in the 1st pict - you have your pale, light character pop-out, having a big contrast with the obviously scary-shadows. In the other pict she seems like just being part of the world, no contrast in it. And while on the 1st pict things are more "alive", seem to tower over her, try to swallow her, on the 2nd the bg looks still, simply surronding her, not really threatening.
Okay, I hope you don't mind my long-assed comment, I just tell you this in hope that it helps you to achieve what you want. True that this style is not as clear and developed yet as the one on 1st pict (even if you personally don't like that style, you still did good on it!) but I'm sure you can master it in no time, you are on good track already. = )
I dunno, I actually prefer the style of the first one. Probably it's because of the darker blacks which stand out more. Lots of artists nowadays know how to do the 3D style shading on the tablet but making simple cartoons work is a rarer skill to have and you really nailed it on the "before" panel.
i like how controversial my before and after became. but it still surprises me the amount of people liking more the first one. that makes me wanna paint even more to improve this sort of 3d style, and no, i didn't give up my cartoon style, it's still in progress of evolution.
Yup, don't need to let the glitz of 3D art overwhelm your originality & sense of style. Lots of artists can shade well with the tablet but not a lot can make characters pop with originality & life which I think you did more effectively with the 1st panel.
thank's for noticing i like this creepier too, the first one is a bit too cute, but perhaps i should have me the newer one cutter too to give out the contrast of a child in a dark place, but anyways, the journey to become better artist is still loong. we'll see in other 4 years or so. redrawing old pictures is an awesome idea!
The before one looks better to be honest, I don't think you've settled in the new style just yet, it takes time to do that. There are clear foreground, midground and background in the first one, but in the second one it's one big pixel soup, if you look at it from thumbnail size you wouldn't be able to tell what's going on, and that part usually sells the picture to the viewer, even before he sees it up close.
Thanks for your opinion, that's right, i'm still trying to find myself in art, but i wouldn't agree the first one looks better, it's too obvious i drew it while being a kid. it looks like it was unfinished, but yes, you may be right, maybe in few months or years i'll see what you see.
kid or not, the first one has CHARACTER, you convey that girl in her pose and through the style you drew her in. She also has the so called character inner conflict, where you convey different things through the character, making her complex. She looks bratty but shy, girly but also with a wild side, and a tad of bored, having that look of "ummm, how long do I have to stand here?", which reads well, you can easily animate this kind of character because you sort of know what she'd do in certain situations. In the second one the pose is symmetrical and rigid, as if it's a 3d ref material. The face lacks expression as well. Besides the colors blending her into the environment, her looks and expression convey her as a part of that environment, and that a bit bland, she looks like a bored ghost of some sorts, which is lacking the depth to define a character.
well, ok, on that point i can agree with you, the way i drew this girl in first picture is more convincing, on the second one i tried to make her look more strong and used to the situations when she's surrounded by monsters, but it didn't run out well, so yeah, next time i need to take care also of the character. thank you for your input and hosting such a great contest
THE WINNER 1ST PRIZE for me is yours, and i do hope you get it, your shading is the best of of the lot,and ive been though them all, the shading on the new one the monster is fantastic, lighting on the smoke at the bottom, is really good, the moon and the 2 black monsters with the images overlay look like movement i its wow great, good work
haha, no, sie dziwię, bo po komentarzu organizatora zdecydowanie nie powinnam była. no cóż. ja tam wiem sowoje, oni swoje, kiedys osiagniemy porozumienie moze (przynajmniej nie final czekać nie muszę )
yay! supskrybcja! dużo dużo fjuczersów! daddy's home
lol, to ten konkurs tacy ludzie organizowali? :infinitenumberoflolz: wiesz, ja bym powiedziała że pod pewnymi względami trudno porównywać te dwie prace, obie są w kompletnie innym stylu i obie mogą się podobać, prawdę mówiąc zauważyłam że ludzie często mają problem ze zrobieniem czegoś "lepiej" zamiast "inaczej". ja myślę że nowa praca jest dojrzalsza i poważniejsza, ale to nie znaczy że stara nie powinna się już nikomu podobać Ty sama wiesz ile pracy, emocji i pomyślunku, a co najważniejsze - nowych doświadczeń było w to włożone, i to wszystko sprawia że nowa praca ma dla Ciebie zupełnie inny wymiar, a ktoś kto obie prace dopiero teraz widzi na oczy nie ma tak naprawdę o nich bladego pojęcia.
nie no, jasne ze mogłam wyciagnać bardzej pierwszy plan, technicznie nie jest to obrazek idealny jak na moje możliwosci, moze trochę zbyt stabilny i nieruchomy, ale w sumie to pierwszy bardziej skomplikowany obrazek udajacy trzyde.